ah, Vonlady...how we loathe thee..
7:38 PM Friday, July 3, 2009reader comment:
Can we do another vonlady? Here is her listing:
<a href="http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=12238316">http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=12238316</a>
and here is the ebay listing from the actual company in China that makes the bracelet, with the same exact photographs:
<a href="http://bit.ly/14MhsT">http://bit.ly/14MhsT</a>
<img alt="" src="http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg33/keep-first/0016/x0016103401.jpg" class="alignnone" width="530" height="373" />
Can't wait for the all caps retort on this one..
I flagged this, for what little good it will do. *sigh*
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Yeah, I flagged it, too. Figured it couldn't help. Sorry, hurt! It couldn't hurt.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Hey, everyone, she sells the bracelet in all different colors now! Because "PEOPLE ASKED ME TO MAKE COLORED PEARL BRACELETS. SO I DID!
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
It's really the price that tells me something is mass produced. Stringing pearls is a bitch. I can't imagine stringing 8 strands of them and selling them for that price.
If Vonlady has listed them at $30 or more, I would never have suspected.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Here's another fantastic mass produced shop, as far as I can tell... what do y'all think? Does the "HK" in the title tip it off?
http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=7642506
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
saw these today:
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=21816975
found them within five minutes here:
http://madisonavegifts.com/index.php?page=shop/flypage&product_id=11818
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
how about this one...all that stringing for just under $20 bucks
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=8433110
Her shop really is heinous!
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Here's the ebay version of the necklace notbuyingit linked....lol.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Tibetan-Handmade-Red-Coral-Yak-Bone-Necklace-from-NEPAL_W0QQitemZ140327336019QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item20ac293853&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Time for another flag-a-thon, I see. Why does Etsy let her get away with consistently breaking the rules? No consequences at all. If they think no one can tell, they're wrong.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Here's yet another Hong Kong-based Etsy shop churning out the mass produced handmade jewellery http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=27387488
Several Asian websites seem to be carrying them http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ko&u=http://www.richbon.com/board/board.html%3Fcode%3Drichbon_board1%26page%3D1%26type%3Dv%26num1%3D960757%26num2%3D00000%26lock%3DN&ei=g91QSsfHDYSvtweH_vCtBA&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Verona%2BEarring%2522%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4GGLJ_enCA220CA221%26sa%3DN%26start%3D10
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Could you check out this shop
http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=6056954
Online shop:
http://www.wingandwendy.com/index.html
Some items say made in China!
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
ha ha..toonces, in the ebay listing is says that they are made by hand by craftsmen in Nepal...hummm, imagine that.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I wrote a really nasty long letter to Etsy at Content and Abuse this morning about VonLady. I'm to the point where either something is done about this or I'm going to intentionally go on the forums and call her ass out for the entire community to see. I'm done. I don't care if it gets me muted.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
perhaps her absence was a visit to nepal? if that is the case, perhaps karma will catch up with her sooner rather than later~
if she sold her items as supplies, she'd much better off most likely...
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
vonlady disappeared from etsy until she finally gave me a refund - as soon as she proved to etsy managment that she had paid me they opened her site again.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I ONLY GAVE YOU A REFUND BECAUSE YOU WERE EXHTORTIONING ME. SHAME ON YOU. THIS IS ILEGAL! I AM A HONEST SELLER WITH BAD HANDS. I WAS CRIPPLED BUT THE BEADS BROUGHT ME BACK. WHY ARE YOU PICKING ON ME. YES I WAS IN NEPAL. I WAS THERE TO WORK WITH THE HUNGRY AND HOMELESS. I TOOK MY SISTER AND MY HIGH SCHOOL TYPER. SHE'S TYPING RIGHT NOW. IF I'M ACCIDENTALLY LISTING COMMERCIALLY MADE ITEMS IT'S ALL HER FAULT. WHILE I WAS IN NEPAL I TAUGHT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE HOW TO STRING BEADS. THEY CALL ME SAINT VONLADY THERE NOW. I SAVED THE ECONOMY OF THE COUNTRY FROM COLLAPSE WITH MY ORIGINAL BEAD DESIGNS. NOW THE HOMELESS WORK FOR ME, VONLADY. I AM AN HONEST SELLER AND A GOOD PERSON AND YOU SHOULD MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
ummm jack ass this statement here; "IF I’M ACCIDENTALLY LISTING COMMERCIALLY MADE ITEMS IT’S ALL HER FAULT." means NOTHING to Etsy. The account is in YOUR NAME. Therefore, YOU ARE LIABLE for anything that transpires on YOUR account. Hence, you must be the biggest moron on earth to actually want us to believe that you "didn't know" that you were selling mass produced crap. How do you NOT KNOW that your supposed "hand made" items weren't actually made by ***you***. Are you that fucking thick?
Oh and I positively love this too: "WHILE I WAS IN NEPAL I TAUGHT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE HOW TO STRING BEADS. THEY CALL ME SAINT VONLADY THERE NOW. I SAVED THE ECONOMY OF THE COUNTRY FROM COLLAPSE WITH MY ORIGINAL BEAD DESIGNS. NOW THE HOMELESS WORK FOR ME, VONLADY. I AM AN HONEST SELLER AND A GOOD PERSON AND YOU SHOULD MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!" Your "original bead designs" single handedly saved a country from financial collapse??? And now you freely admit that you have a sweat shop of homeless people working FOR YOU and you're reselling things that THEY MAKE on your site as your own??
You're even more scummy then I original gave you credit for you fucking whack job!
P.S. If your "original bead designs" saved an entire country from financial collapse - then why isn't your shit selling well enough here to dig the United States out of it's financial crisis???? Please oh Saint VonLady - Save the U.S.A too!!!
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Oh.. and btw, I searched and searched and searched the web to find ANY TRACE or viable PROOF that your so called "original beaded jewelry" saved Nepal from financial collapse.
Please provide legal proof via a news paper on line article, news broad cast, anything, that proves your statements. I think we all here would like to see the proof of your words.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Laughing my ASS off. If you saved Nepal, then why can't you save the f'ing USA's economy, Saint Vonlady?
Liar liar imported pant's on fire.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Jeepers, I needed that laugh! Thank you, St. VonLady!
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
This one is priceless too!!!
"I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO TRAVEL THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. WHILE VISITING OTHER COUNTRIES, I DISCOVERED BEAUTIFUL HANDMADE JEWELRY FOR A FRACTION OF THE COST HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. THE ITEMS IN STOCK ARE EITHER DESIGNED OR HAND PICKED BY ME. ALL DESCRIPTIONS ARE AS ACCURATE AS IS POSSIBLE. IF THERE IS ANYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW, PLEASE EMAIL ME SO I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. I WANT ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS TO BE 100% HAPPY WITH OUR PRODUCTS! WE ARE NOT NEW TO THE INTERNET SALES WORLD, WE HAVE BEEN ONLINE NOW FOR ALMOST 6 YEARS!"
From this web site: https://www.alsoshop.com/shop.php?parent_id=474&user_id=9
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
all responses too funny but wasnt that post supposedly from von lady made up? she wouldnt actually say that would she?
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I am just totally bemused that this woman is still on Etsy - how can they possibly justify the fact that she is still there selling this crap. Surely they don't fall for these ridiculous sob stories? Totally incredulous.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I would love to see how many people reported her the first time and what the decision process was that caused admin to allow this shop to stay open. etsy failed on this one
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
At this point, after all the flagging, emails and issues, she could dance naked through Etsy headquarters wearing a sign that reads 'I'M A FAKE AND A RESELLER WHO SELLS SWEATSHOP CHINESE IMPORTS AND LIES ABOUT IT' and still I don't think they'd notice. Looks like you can get away with a whole lot on Etsy if you fork out a bunch of 20 cent listing fees!
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
OMG...this woman is hilarious. I'm sorry but when you have your "Designer" (her sister) in NC put some star of David charms on a hook and make them earrings...they are not an earth shattering design by any means...nor are they rare-geez. ugh I just feel YUCKY after browsing her shop.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
AHA!!!!!
I got confirmation from the China Importer on Ebay about "Saint VonLady" - they told me she is one of their import customers!!!
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EVERYONE - Report report report all at the same time to Etsy at these addresses: content@etsy.com and abuse@etsy.com
I'm contacting several admin DIRECTLY now.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
VonLady (Maybe) Says:
I TOOK MY SISTER AND MY HIGH SCHOOL TYPER. SHE’S TYPING RIGHT NOW. IF I’M ACCIDENTALLY LISTING COMMERCIALLY MADE ITEMS IT’S ALL HER FAULT.
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Her "high school typer" just willingly typed that? No wonder Saint Vonlady hasn't posted again. The typist probably gave her the finger and left.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
What in the hell is the matter with Etsy. Resellers are running rampant on Etsy and they do nothing. So much for keeping it a handmade/supplies/vintage site. Resellers in the handmade, non-vintage in the vintage, anything goes in supplies!
Vonlady, you are a reseller and need to get the hell off of Etsy!
I reported one shop that was selling new, now they say they are vintage! That was a while back and they are still getting away with it.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Yea, I reported this chick: http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5931079 And I sent her a convo too. She changed all her listings to supplies. Why o why is this stuff on here?
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I completely agree that there may be something up with vonlady, and I've flagged her myself, but clearly that post was not from her.
"VonLady (Maybe) " - probably not her, eh?
Come on guys - let's keep it a clean fight!
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
sharon Says:
“VonLady (Maybe) ” – probably not her, eh?
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You're right, sharon. Last time vonlady posted on this site (back in April), she posted as Yvonne Williams. :>T
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Like Jewelry Artisans do not have enough competition with out these scam artists selling mass produced crap. It just really torks me off.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Why is she yelling at me?
This is a new one to me, has she explained why she's yelling?
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Here ya go, Deanna.
http://etsycallout.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/overstockcom-for-all-of-vonladys-handmade-needs/#comments
I think post #14 is where it's "explained." Enjoy.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I just spent most of my evening reading that other thread - how does she think she can get away with it - even after all the proof shown here. CRAZY!!!!!! Flagged and flagged again
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I flagged her yesterday and today. That's July 15. She's still there. What is Etsy's problem?
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Yup - still there - I flagged several of her items - it gets me so mad that she claims these are handmade - what a joke
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I say it's call out time on the forums, peeps.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Hee Hee.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
HER SHOP IS EMPTY!!!!!! FINALLY!
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Dances a jig. She must have put up a real fight to have her shop up this long. Imagine being the admin that RECEIVED HER EMAILS ABOUT ALL THE WORK IS HERS OR HER FAMILY.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
still emptied, but not brickwalled. I miss that brickwall, pretty funny.
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM
still empty. Me thinks this is for real...
EtsyCallOut September 15, 2009 at 1:42 PM