AutumnandEve
1:14 PM Friday, September 25, 2009Two different readers commented on AutumnandEve…
Major copyright violation “illustrator” on the FP right now. I guess illustrator now means “I know how to use filters on photshop.”
http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5838980
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=28440024 -LOVE that they have the image listed under their copyright. Funny, I believe the photo of Mr. Dylan that you stole had it’s own copyright. I can’t stand these sellers!
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A very amusing email I received from the crazy funkyshique bunch…
I just finished reading your blog entry on Funkyshique. It was incredibly shocking to me as an Etsy seller myself to see how other sellers would treat Funkyshique.
Etsy is a plethora of mixed items, including items to be altered, things that appeal to the artistic mind. You would have to report over half of Etsy and could spend 24 hours a day pointing out non-vintage and non-handmade items.
Funkyshique has a nice subtle style and doesn’t exploit any type of manufactured item, unlike many of the made in China supplies found on Etsy. She is a hard working Mother, American Citizen and Hobbyist with her own unique style and has respect enough for our planet to recycle.
Does every knitter weave their own yarn or every artist mesh there own canvas fibers? I hope she paints the figurine purple and sprinkles it with glitter and calls it Altered Art.
What a shame that your blog exists simply to insult others. I see nothing but jealousy and envy and negativity.
Fadedpinkrose
Traci
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Yep, the new Etsy rules say it must be handmade by YOU or 20 years old UNLESS you are a mother, a US citizen, a hobbyist with style and hell, even recycle. Nice to know. Mothers, hobbyists and earth lovers from other countries be damned!
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Sigh, I hate the "mother" defense. Hate with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns. And I say this as a stay at home mom.
Being a mom - even a sahm trying to make "some extra money" - does NOT give one the right to circumvent the rules.
Crazy Cat Lady September 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM
I've never heard the "American Citizen" defense before. I wonder if that works on anyone?
"Yeah, officer, I was speeding. But you can't give me a ticket because I'm a MOMMY! and an AMERICAN CITIZEN! I have HOBBIES! and I RECYCLE! Now, get lost! I'm in a HURRY! I have to get home and post about my HONESTY on the INTERNET!"
Bedazzled Condom September 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Er....I'm a mom, an American citizen, and I have enough respect for our planet to recycle too. So? And I manage to be of that (lol) without posting anything made in 2000 to my Etsy shop. Seriously, these excuses made for her by her friends are laughable. It would be SO much cooler and more admirable if someone would just say that they blew it and own it.
Honestly. Don't pick on her, and it's ok that she lists things that aren't really vintage on Etsy, because she cares enough about our planet to recycle??
UGH UGH UGH.
toonces September 25, 2009 at 1:54 PM
What does being an American citizen, SAHM, hobbiest and a recycler have to do with selling non vintage and non handmade items on etsy?!
I'm all of those, except the American citizen part, and make only handmade items. I don't bend or change the rules to suit myself!
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 2:00 PM
I'm all of those things too, but I follow the rules and I expect everyone else to be held to the same rules!
Not handmade + not vintage = NOT ON ETSY!
Now to get admin on board...
Lindsey September 25, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Follow the "rules" and you won't get picked on...........simple as that!
I'm a mom AND a grandma, I work a full-time job AND make hand-made stuff to sell, I'm a hobbyist and I am a born & raised American and Veteran. Does that mean I can break any rule I want? Hell no! There are many other venues out there that would be happy to get your business selling "gently used" items that are NOT 20+ years old, mass produced merchandise and barely altered/assembled "crafts".
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Since when does it surprise anyone that Etsy promotes copyright infringements on the Front Page?
How about the mother-of-all-copyright-fuck-ups:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28488923@N05/3727482287/
Shameless xploitation and helped several big rip-off artists all in the same FP 7/16/09. Recognize the Autumn&Eve item on that one too?
I can haz rip-offs? September 25, 2009 at 3:15 PM
It seems that Etsy FP admin can't put up a page without a violation of their own TOU. It's an insult to their sellers and Etsy's integrity. Never thought it would come to this, but I'm ready to move on to a new venue: for buying, and if I ever choose to sell handmade again.
There are good sellers still at Etsy, but I'd rather support a juried venue with better quality control.
www.1000Markets.com
Hope to see those Etsy sellers over there (I know I found at least one favorite over there already).
Sarah September 25, 2009 at 3:28 PM
I found this listing...http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=30979366 and she says in her lsiting-
There is no copyright date on the booklet itself
She does not have the right to break the rules-ugh!
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 3:32 PM
I am an American citizen and hobbyist and I recycle, but I don't have children. Can I ignore 3/4 of the rules then?
I wish she would glue glitter to those stupid dollar store figurines, then they would be hand-altered and she could sell them on Etsy. How hard is that to understand?
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 3:36 PM
How is 1000markets.com? I've been thinking about moving my shop over there.
I tried a bit at Art Fire but I'm not so sure about it either.
There is something inherently pathetic in that people can admit no wrong and when called on not knowing the rules or just pretending that they never called something handmade but put it on an exclusively handmade website screams of complete narcissism.
Ellen Mint September 25, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Also, buying crap at the dollar store and reselling it is not recycling.
Recycling is using something that would have been thrown away otherwise.
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 3:37 PM
@Blablover5, I just opened a buyer's account there. That's what I should have done with Etsy first.
Word on the street is that sales are slow (low traffic), and I haven't heard better with Artfire. There was an Etsy buyer (Karen?) over in the heated FunkyShique post who made some great points about buying handmade online and the assurance that Etsy used to offer. I'm going to check out 1000Markets to see if they can offer that assurance better than Etsy--as a buyer, not a seller.
Sarah September 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Anonymous -- The booklet in the listing seems legit. I am going by the age of the paper, the style of the illustrations, and the way the models in the photos are styled. Not everything has a date printed on it -- I've seen other ephemera that has no date or publication data on it. The booklet may have been printed and sold to several different craft materials sellers to offer as a freebie or sell with a rubber stamped company name/address inside or on the cover.
Can you explain why you think the booklet is not vintage?
life-during-wartime September 25, 2009 at 3:59 PM
"Anonymous said...
I found this listing...http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=30979366 and she says in her lsiting-
There is no copyright date on the booklet itself
She does not have the right to break the rules-ugh!"
Why are you trying to cause trouble for this seller? There is absolutely nothing wrong with that listing.
There's also nothing wrong with the seller you called out on the other thread.
Shame on you.
Bedazzled Condom September 25, 2009 at 4:11 PM
What do you mean bedazzled? This is your blog afterall and I was finding all of the Etsy violators for you...
shame one you.
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 5:07 PM
I wrote the email and this has gotten way off track, I was simply trying to state that although there may be many Etsy sellers braking rules that Funkyshique should not have been singled out and insulted the way she was. Bedazzled, you are taking this too far...... If your blog was meant to make people aware of Etsy rules that is one thing, that is moral and just, however, it seems your only goal is to insult and put down people. I call YOU out for being so rude and so inconsiderate of others feelings.
You appear to be cold hearted and ruthless.
To all you who view this blog and comment, it is only a matter of time before Bedazzled turns on you and Bedazzles you with her negativity!!!!!
I hope blogspot shuts you down.
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Anonymous said...
I found this listing...http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=30979366 and she says in her lsiting-
There is no copyright date on the booklet itself
She does not have the right to break the rules-ugh!
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HAHA. Do your research before you try to pull that.
Look here: http://www.amazon.com/Begin-Knit-Star-Book-201/dp/B00157TIGE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253915230&sr=8-1
Date is 1970. And mine is OLDER, because it's list price was 29 cents, the one in the pic says 35 cents.
Lindsey September 25, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Amanda, Traci and Jill, I can't decide which of you is Dumb, which of you is Dumber and which of you is Dumbest so I'm just going to call the lot of you "Hey, Dumbfucks."
Hey, Dumbfucks, I don't own this blog. I did not start this blog. I do not administer this blog. I only participate by reading this blog and commenting on this blog. Nothing more.
I realize this will probably go in one collective brain cell and out the other but I had to try.
Bedazzled Condom September 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM
don't think that whole link showed, here it is: http://tinyurl.com/ye75jd5
Lindsey September 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Anon at 5:34 PM, this blog didn't "single her out". There are tons of other entries about other resellers. She's not special or unique, and if she & her friends had not reacted so childishly, the post about her would have been buried and forgotten with 3 comments. Especially if she had just deleted the listings and says "oops, sorry", it would have been forgotten overnight.
Funky & pals ridiculous name-calling and excuse-making posts have been what keeps this trainwreck going. At this point, it's not about the reselling anymore. It's about the over-reaction, the drama, the arrogant US-centic, mommy-centric entitlement, and it's about the popcorn.
If you shut up, it might go away. The more you keep protesting, the longer it will continue. (much like the Shade vs. Daisy drama, you may want to see how that went for them before you type your next indignant response.)
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 8:17 PM
"She's not special or unique, and if she & her friends had not reacted so childishly, the post about her would have been buried and forgotten with 3 comments. Especially if she had just deleted the listings and says "oops, sorry", it would have been forgotten overnight."
EXACTLY.
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 8:21 PM
The funkyshique saga is still going? This is better then TMZ and contains more drama then a soap opera.
Funkyshique went from remorseless and illogical to playing the victim (after people said she should have.) Now her friends are carrying on the fight in her honor and obviously have not read the Etsy rules to understand what this whole deal is about...TV has nothing on this (grabs the popcorn)
BTW I'm a hard working Mother, American Citizen, Hobbyist, and at an Imaginary Disadvantage for being African American I trump your pity party!
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Oh now we are going to play the race card? How low can you go to justify your actions?
Why dont you all sit here and comment with each other how everyone wants Etsy to be this wonderful place....MISERY LOVES COMPANY.
Pick on someone else. Act like business people and stop hiding in the dark. Show your faces and intereact like a human being.
I will be here to discuss this matter like an adult when you are ready.
Monkeyshit September 25, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Hello, my name is Dumbass and I think I belong here with the rest of you....
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 9:36 PM
OK, looks like someone has been reading "Shade's Guide to Damage Control".
We're going to need more popcorn, this could go on for weeks.
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 9:47 PM
We're going to need more popcorn, this could go on for weeks.
OR months, or YEARS! Yikes, that would be a headache, huh?
monkeyshit September 25, 2009 at 10:07 PM
'Shade's Guide to Damage Control' -- good one, Anon! Looks like they sprung for the Ultra-Batshit Reputation-Ruining edition, too.
JK September 25, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Oh now we are going to play the race card? How low can you go to justify your actions?
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As the anonymous African American I do fear the retaliation of the KKK so I shall remain so. To confirm my suspicions Monkeyshit you must be a racist as you seem to be implying I'm am at a low already before my comment, so I ask you how long must you keep my people down? How long do you want to be an instigator? If you are Funkyshique how low can you go? If you want an adult conversation why have the name of an adolescent? If you are a defender(friend) of Funkyshique do you think she approves of this behavior that reflects negatively on her?
Answers should be in the form of a paragraph.
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 10:11 PM
perhaps i will start shopping on juried sites.
with so many quick to defend the rule breaking of others, it is clear to me that many shop owners couldn't care less about the needs of their customers.
the tou were set up on etsy in such a way as to support more ethical shopping habits, give people a venue to sell the items they create, and the supplies to make them.
i am sad to see people have such a detrimental attitude towards the integrity of their venue.
and as a former shop owner myself, i will reiterate a point that former poster had so intelligently brought up.
perhaps the if sellers who come to the defense of tou breakers were being undersold in their categories by resellers, being buried by shops who abuse tags, resulting in a loss of sales, or having their handmade items ripped off and sold for cheaper, they may change their tune.
nope September 25, 2009 at 10:21 PM
oh my gosh i can't type! :)
nope September 25, 2009 at 10:22 PM
'Shade's Guide to Damage Control'
LMAO! I think that is worthy of a HUZZAH!
Anonymous September 25, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Come out where ever you are..still waiting!
Maybe one of you will come out of hiding and show your mugs. Just maybe - I will be keeping my fingers crossed!
Monkeyshit September 25, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Wow! I'm currently on tne front page of etsy!!! Thanks bespermed in a condom!!!
Fakey-shit! September 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Guess what??? ANOTHER sale today, so that's what, 7 orders today? Thanks "Becummed on in a condom"! Your the best!
Fakey-shit!! September 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Woopsie! That was "9" sales today! My bad!
Fakey-shit!!! September 25, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Monkeyshit, you rock! I love you! Fan of Fakeyshit too!
Mermaid's Cottage September 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Monkeyshit, you rock! I love you! Fan of Fakeyshit too!
Mermaid's Cottage September 25, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Fadedpinkrose, are you a reseller, too?
Funky might be the best thing since sliced bread BUT she did try to resell her item. Resellers belong on Ebay (unless they are selling vintage or supplies, then they are allowed).
It isn't *MY* rule, it is in the TOS of Etsy so why defend a reseller?
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 12:04 AM
The same reason why you have no problem putting in your "lousy" 2 cents anon! Perhaps YOU are a reseller, that's why you haven't revealed your name! But that's ok coward, what goes around comes around! I'm sure if you pull your head out of becummed in a condoms ass long enough, they will come after you too!
Fakey-shit!! September 26, 2009 at 12:23 AM
I resell all the time, the essence of vintage! 20 years or older? I got pets older than that! I knew I was old when Etsy said vintage was 80's!!! Hahaaa! To me, Vintage is really old, like 40 years! I sell shabby chic, totally different category and era and a total big hit on Etsy that is not 20 years or older. If you look up shabby chic on Etsy, you will find thousands of listings. Etsy is crowded with crap, new supplies, etc. I was on Etsy when Etsy wasn't cool! I love Etsy and Etsy sellers and once again I will say, this blog is not intended to educate sellers and buyers, but to degrade anyone who crosses their opinions. Thing is, maybe this blog should pick on someone their own size, cause Funkyshique's got some strong ass bitches as friends. I'm all about the love, y'all, really, let's move on. Too much hating here.
Mermaid's Cottage September 26, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Ummm, well my friends won't shine me on when I do wrong. They are true friends.
It is EXCELLENT to have your pal's back - - UNLESS your pal did screw up, and then you feed them chocolate and say, "It will pass". You don't go on a frontal assault declaring the reseller is a victim.
Your pal mucked up - - deal with it HONESTLY. She made a mistake and instead of letting it pass her "posse" is making it tons worse.
With friends like y'all, who needs enemies?
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Again, where's your name, your store?
That's what I thought.
Fakey-shit September 26, 2009 at 12:35 AM
FPR -- Since you're claiming expertise in 'vintage', have you advised Funky how to fix the violations in her shop? She has half a dozen items categorized as 'vintage' which aren't, according to Etsy's TOU.
life-during-wartime September 26, 2009 at 12:36 AM
rose...
rules and opinions are two different things. these people featured on this blog are violating rules. not opinions.
i don't even know why i continue to respond to these comments when it becomes more clear to me that shop owners on etsy really don't seem to care what goes on around them, or even know the clear rules of the site.
and it's not just etsy rules that are being called out on this blog.
copyright violations, and shops who take payment, but don't deliver are called out here as well. both of which are illegal. as we all know.
i feel etsy call, and it's readers are looking out for me as a customer by attempting to maintain the integrity of the site, by having fraudulent sellers, or listings removed.
once again rose, if you haven't seen my comments on the other thread, i am a customer. i want honesty, and integrity from the shops i buy from. you can't get market research like this without paying for it.
nope September 26, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Krista, you rock - - You are going over their heads, but you rock none the less :)
(I *CARE* what is offered on Etsy and reseller Hallmark crap is NOT allowed - - Thank you for voicing your opinion here :) )
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 12:59 AM
thank you anon :)
i had thought about posting some dirty words in all caps on that last one to attract attention to my comment.
perhaps i will do that now.
FINGER BANG! FART BUCKET! POOP STICK!
eh that's all i got. :)
nope September 26, 2009 at 1:02 AM
Thanks Krista! My thoughts exactly.
I'll be leaving Etsy as a seller AND buyer. When I shop for handmade, I'm going to 1000 Markets from now on.
Sarah September 26, 2009 at 1:26 AM
oh, funkshit, etsy admin isnt going to like your behavior at all...
puhleeze September 26, 2009 at 3:21 AM
Fadedrose said: "Etsy is crowded with crap, new supplies, etc."
But, you know that new supplies are allowed, right?
And the items in Funkyshit's store were not allowed.
So the point is still: read the rules. Follow them.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 3:56 AM
have you seen this shop yet??
http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=8141264
I saw them few weeks ago, then they are gone now they back again!!
listed more than 300 items in 1 day!!
have more than 60 hearts already..
so not fair to all the handmade fashion designer
Unknown September 26, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Can I be part of the Etsy police too, please?
Pretty please with a cherry on tip?
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 9:52 AM
*Giggle* I said "cherry on tip"...must of been thinking of you bedazz condom!
Your name suits your filthy mouth so well!
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM
I also hate the "mother" defence. It's stupid. Being a mother doesn't give anyone the right to break rules.
Or - wait, you're claiming that *because* you're a mother, you just want to make a few extra bucks, and breaking the rules is A-OK if you're just making a few extra bucks?
Hogwash. If that were true, dealing crack would be ok. You're only making a few extra bucks with each transaction, right?
Fadedpinkrose, your use of the silly "mother" argument makes you look like a fool.
This blog serves a purpose - to call out bad sellers on etsy. And that's good, because bad sellers don't belong on etsy... and the more they're called out, the more they're flagged, and the more likely they are to be deleted. It's a slow process, but getting some deleted is better than none.
Chantelle September 26, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I'm a mom too, and I like to set a good example for my kids by showing them how to bend rules to suit their needs.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Anon, YOU are setting a bad example when you spew hateful things here on this worthless blog.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM
awww, i think someone's got a widdle crush on bedazzled condom... how sweet. ^_^
noirmoon September 26, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Rule. Handmade by seller.
Rule. Vintage must be at least 20 years old.
Those aren't up for debate.
These comment sections are exactly why I'll continue using blogs like this before making purchases off of Etsy. I won't support a reseller, I won't support someone who breaks the law, and I won't support sellers who spend more time calling people names than resolving issues. The blog post about Funkyshique, as I pointed out in the actual post about the store, has now made the front page of google. That is legacy.
That is self-created legacy.
Angel - Having a Nemesis September 26, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Angel, are you blind? THIS BLOG MADE HER A LEGACY. You are making my store a legacy by profiling it here. THIS BLOG, no one else.
The name calling started with the people who come here. Especially Bedazzed. GET THE STORY STRAIGHT.
I don't know Funky but I dont want my personal infomation smeared for all to see and that is what has happened here. I have emailed Etsy and like you all say, they do nothing. I am here to protect my store by giving back what you people gave.
End of story.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 1:09 PM
"The name calling started with the people who come here."
You're right, Anonymous aka Amanda, (do you really think we can't tell it is you?) but let's be specific.
The name calling started with your "dear friend" Jill, aka MyTurtleBaby on Etsy.
Jill posted several inane and nasty comments on the other post. I called her a "fucking idiot" with good reason. I stand by my words. Anyone who publicly defends an Etsy reseller is a fucking idiot in my book.
Your friend Traci is also on that list.
Jill's blog is sweetbabyjamison.blogspot.com.
Jill has since removed all her angry, name calling comments from the original funkyshique post and her blog is now readable by invitation only though it can still be found in Google cache.
I assume she closed her blog because of the false accusations she made against morgansilk and electricbluebird.
Amanda, the fact that you can stare reality in the face and still call it something completely different than what it actually is, is a crystal clear indication that you need help.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE avail yourself of the services I posted in the other comment section.
Bedazzled Condom September 26, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Bedazzled, you have gone way too far on this. Yes, I broke a HUGE etsy law (obviously "THE etsy law") I admitted to the fact I was not a collector, I should have done my research, honestly, I didnt know what the thing was. It has no "made in china" stickers on it like you said, the only thing I saw was a carving on the side that said someones name, and 2000. Thats it! The thing lagitimately LOOKED like it was handmade! I also loved the fact that it was all about love. LOVE Bedazzled, something you have no sense of what-so-ever. So yes, my bad! I didnt say I made the whole friggin line of these willow tree things, I also didnt say "I" made it. AND I didnt say it was vintage! I did make a mistake, by putting it on etsy! (You'd think I had just made a terrorist attack on Washington D.C.!) I wasnt trying to be 'sneaky' about it, also like you said. Quote: Did she acually think anyone would notice??" um, get a clue, EVERYONE sees it! I wasnt trying to be sneaky! 'Dumbfuck'!
Next: You have absolutely NO RIGHT to xploit me like you have, including my blog, myspace and whatever kind of dirt you can condure up! That is FLAT out uncool! I have not spoke ANYTHING on this blog since last night, and I have been using 'fakey-shit' not anon, not monkeyshit, not anything. I am not hiding anything. You all know my store, you all now know my first and last name, you all know where I live, my sons name, the hubbys name, what else do you want? You want my bra size too? So YOU are wrong! Although you assume Im a terrible lying alcoholic crazy bitch mom, you have no idea who I am, or most importantly, "WHO" I know, so I suggest you keep MY personal business out of this, because like I said, you have NO IDEA what connections and resourses may lie at my finger tips. Enough is enough! Im deeply sorry if I offended any of you, it was very unprofessional of me, yes, but like the rest of you, I was caught up in the moment. From this, I believe that anything and everything on my etsy store will be all handmade by me, or atleast 20 years of age. I 100% understand the point of this blog, however, its hitious, hateful and plain out PROVES the kind of person you truely are, very discusting! If your going to have a blog, website, call-out or what ever it is, you need to atleast make yourself known to the people YOU are judging! Because you think you have it all, by finding my blog, and myspace, blah blah blah, but what you dont know, is how much I know about you! But to keep myself on my new 'professional level' I will not reveal, even though you SO deserve it. So please, MOVE ON!
funkyshique September 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Hey check this out....
http://anti-etsycallout.blogspot.com/
Monkeyshit September 26, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Bedazzled said:
You're right, Anonymous aka Amanda, (do you really think we can't tell it is you?) but let's be specific.
hahahahaaaaa! heheheheehhehee! This is too funny! BeCumWad in a condom, OBVIOUSLY YOU are the Dumbfuck in this scenerio! hahahahaa! hahhaha!
*woopsie! There goes my 'professional' side, out the window!
funkyshique September 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis
Bedazzled Condom September 26, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Thanks for the tip, they told me you'd be sending me the link seeing how your so well know over there!
funkyshique September 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Funky, instead of spouting off here, why don't you click over to your own Etsy shop and fix the remaining violations.
Here, let me help you out:
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=23584255
Unless you made these alterations 20+ years ago, this is not a vintage item.
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http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=30079355
This is a contemporary design. If you made it, put it in a handmade category. If you purchased it, it's not appropriate for Etsy.
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http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=24172957
An assembly of vintage bits into a new decor item is not vintage.
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http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=24139703
Even if all the bits and pieces are 20+ years old, this is a handmade assembly and not a vintage item.
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http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=24134800
You say it yourself in the description: mixed media art. Handmade. (Pssst: can't tell from the photo how old the frame was before you funkyshiqued it, but possibly in its original condition was worth more than you are asking for the piece now. Just sayin')
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http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=19680500
This may be made with vintage materials 'top to bottom' but it ain't vintage now.
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What I don't get about you, funky, is why don't you want to claim your own handmade work? Why do you want to suggest that these items were made by someone else...which is what you are doing when you put them in the vintage category?
life-during-wartime September 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...
"Angel, are you blind? THIS BLOG MADE HER A LEGACY. You are making my store a legacy by profiling it here. THIS BLOG, no one else. "
Ok you clearly don't know how Google works. The ranking in search results is based on how many external links lead to this page. If funkyshique & pals had not come back to debate & refute EVERY. SINGLE. POST. , then the blog would have only gotten a few comments and views, and would not be ranked so highly in google.
By turning this into a mud-flinging cage match, Funky & pals have attracted many more views. Links to this post are being spread all over, there are MANY more people reading than just the ones who comment, and they all share the link with some friends. Word spreads quickly when there is a good flame war to watch. It's entertainment for many parties who are not even affected by the outcome. The longer & uglier it gets, the more hits it will get and the higher it goes in google ranking.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM
It has no "made in china" stickers on it like you said, the only thing I saw was a carving on the side that said someones name, and 2000. Thats it! The thing lagitimately LOOKED like it was handmade! ... I didnt say I made the whole friggin line of these willow tree things, I also didnt say "I" made it. AND I didnt say it was vintage!
You still don't seem to grasp the rules.
It doesn't matter if it was handmade by "someone", it has to be handmade BY YOU to be listed on Etsy in the handmade category.
If it's not handmade BY YOU, it has to be either vintage, or a supply.
You know it's not vintage because the date 2000 was carved into it.
It doesn't matter what you represent it as, it doesn't matter that you didn't SAY it was vintage. It simply does not fit any of the 3 Etsy categories:
1. handmade BY YOU
2. vintage
3. craft supplies
There is no category on Etsy for items handmade by someone else within the past 19 years. That category is called EBAY.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 3:24 PM
"The thing lagitimately LOOKED like it was handmade!"
On Etsy, handmade means handmade-by-YOU. So it wouldn't belong even if it was handmade by someone else.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Funky, one more thing-
Use spellcheck, for crying out loud!
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM
If you all had noticed, I didnt come into this 'mudslinging event' until you all started ripping me apart on this shithole, piss poor excuse of a blog! All I did was stick up for myself, as you would do the same! But you haggling, clucking fools wouldnt stop! So dont say "oh this never would have happened to her if she had just kept her mouth shut!" BULL SHIT!! You old hens HAD to cackle, because thats what your so good at, instead of SELLING your stuff on etsy! You have picked me apart, my store apart, revealed personal things about me, even made fun of my eyebrows! And for what?? One little piece of 'yardsale trash'?? To me, THATS psyco! I mean, really, do you all 'feel' better? Have I simply 'made your day' by doing this?
funkyshique September 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM
This is a re-post of my original comment, which can be found on the Funkyshique blog post.
The reality of doing business is that you lose your ability to remain anonymous. When you give interviews, for example, or when you join social networking sites, those are all outlets for people to "discover" who you are and what you do.
When I put the term Funkyshique into Google, there are loads of resources that all give insights into who you are as a person. Which is what careful potential buyers look into when they want to make sure the seller is above the board (and I think that we both can agree that on Etsy, we should be safe rather than sorry).
If you do not want to have your potential customers finding your personal information on the internet, I would highly suggest that you refrain from using the same handle, Funkyshique, for both business and personal matters. By using the same handle, it indicates that anything you say personally is automatically associated with your business. Your MySpace page shows up on the first page of Google, and if it is not intended to be an extension of your business, you should be changing it immediately. That is flat out basic business.
It is very unfortunate that this has turned into a circus act, Amanda. It is a very large guide on "What Not To Do". A seller, especially in the face of adversity, has to display a level of professionalism that is beyond reproach. Unfavourable comments regarding your store and its contents do not have to be reflections upon yourself, the individual.
The rather ugly truth is that whether or not you were posting under various anonymous monikers is irrelevant. Be they friends, former buyers, family, random people cruising in to cause more trouble, they all did more damage to your brand, Funkyshique, than the dozen or so posts prior to the arrival of the calvary entering the fray. It is very difficult to maintain a level of discourse when the people who are advocating civility are told to "drop dead" in return by people associated with yourself.
The problem with Etsy is that there are no employees who "police" the site, and the listings. They actually demand that the people who sell/buy do it for them (which ensures that they don't get pulled into situations like these). But they have created an impossible situation in that they actively thwart "calling out", an ambiguous far-reaching term which is an overused excuse to close forum threads without actually solving problems.
This dialogue could have been much different. It should have been much different. I really do suggest a helpful marketing course, or a public relations class, to learn to be able to deal with professional criticism (and rise against personal criticism). And next time, and hopefully there isn't a next time, let your pals know that you would prefer to deal with situations as the businesswoman you should be.
I won't be purchasing from you in the future, that is just the reality of coming in contact with a potential buyer and making a terrible professional impression, but perhaps your actions and deeds from this point further will help others overcome the lack of professionalism and nonsense displayed.
Best of luck.
Angel - Having a Nemesis September 26, 2009 at 3:38 PM
No actually I wouldn't do the same. I wouldn't "stick up for myself" if I had been in the wrong. I would have said "oops, sorry" and fixed my listings.
And sometimes even if you are in the RIGHT, continuing the debate can cause more damage than just shutting up and letting it drop. Sometimes discretion is the better part of valour.
Before you and your foul-mouthed friends showed up to "stick up for yourself", this was just another post among a bunch of similar posts and it would have been forgotten in a week.
Now, no one will ever forget your name. You are famous, and not in a good way. Your so-called friends have done more damage to your reputation than the reselling, since most readers are assuming everyone who posts to support you is actually you using different names. All of their actions are reflecting on you.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM
It's ironic that no one here leaves names...why? Because you all know that your actions will result with your name being dragged through the mud.
But you must hide behind using anonymous instead of proving your words.
I dont give a rats ass about funky. This is about my shop and my business that I am here to protect. That is total bullshit that you would not protect yourself. Perhaps you are a reseller yourself?
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 4:38 PM
"It is a very large guide on "What Not To Do". A seller, especially in the face of adversity, has to display a level of professionalism that is beyond reproach."
Yes. Oh yes. It's all about professionalism, and how you act when the chips are down, it's SO TRUE. Thank you, Angel. Thank you. I have to say right here and now that I too will never purchase from funkyshique because I would be afraid of how she would act if something went wrong with the transaction, plain and simple.
Please let's all learn a lesson from this. And I stand behind what I said earlier about retaliating, because that's exactly what was and is being done. You can argue about the word all you want, the definition is clear and retaliation is absolutely what is going on here. I'm very disappointed in the direction this post turned in.
I love the idea behind this blog, I honestly do. The idea behind it is good, and the "catches" are good. It's in the comments where the idea falls short. There is ganging up on people, and very unnecessary attacks, and immaturity, and horrible mean spiritedness. So much anger and vitriol and bitterness. I'm not going to participate in this any longer. It's just.....ugly. Some of the people that post here in the comments with regularity have gone way beyond the pale and I wouldn't buy from them either...they're just as bad as the people who are circumventing the rules at Etsy. Worse, actually.
Peace out.
toonces September 26, 2009 at 4:51 PM
yes! I do need a 'spell check' Thank you for pointing out 'yet another flaw of funkyshique' (gee, theres a shocker!)
I can plainly see that no matter what I say, or do, I will NEVER be right, and Im a piece of shit! Right? Right!
Defending my name?? Its ETSY FOR GODS SAKE!!! Im nOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!! Talk about ME making a mountain out of a mole hill????
You people need to get a grip!
Anon, you said:
No actually I wouldn't do the same. I wouldn't "stick up for myself" if I had been in the wrong. I would have said "oops, sorry" and fixed my listings.
And sometimes even if you are in the RIGHT, continuing the debate can cause more damage than just shutting up and letting it drop. Sometimes discretion is the better part of valour.
BULL SHITSKI!!! You have never been the "target" here on this shithole blog!! You have no idea! YOU wont even leave your name, or even keep out of this! YOU dont leave your name because #1, your either afriad of the same abuse, or #2, your a BIG TIME RESELLER! There is no "oops, sorry!" and fix my things! Go look at the history of this trainwreck and you will plainly see the attacks and bad accusations against me! I had no chance what so ever! I was doomed from the beginning! But you know what?? I love my etsy store, and I wont lose any business because of THIS TRiloR PARK TRASH! I will continute to "make" my now "HOT SELLER" and sell the crap out of them!
funkyshique September 26, 2009 at 5:04 PM
"I had no chance what so ever! I was doomed from the beginning!"
More Victim-speak.
This could have been only 7 replies if you had just posted "Oh, wow, you are right, that doesn't fit here! I will take it down right away. I feel so silly!" and then left and not returned. Your shop rep would look good, you'd have done a quick apology without added victim speak, and the posts would have petered off.
Sometimes the best way to defend your good name is to know when to walk away.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Toonces said:
Some of the people that post here in the comments with regularity have gone way beyond the pale and I wouldn't buy from them either...they're just as bad as the people who are circumventing the rules at Etsy. Worse, actually.
Amen, sister!
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 5:18 PM
This could have been only 7 replies if you had just posted "Oh, wow, you are right, that doesn't fit here! I will take it down right away. I feel so silly!" and then left and not returned. Your shop rep would look good, you'd have done a quick apology without added victim speak, and the posts would have petered off.
.....again, bullshit!
funkyshique September 26, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Anonymous said...
"I had no chance what so ever! I was doomed from the beginning!"
More Victim-speak.
This could have been only 7 replies if you had just posted "Oh, wow, you are right, that doesn't fit here! I will take it down right away. I feel so silly!" and then left and not returned. Your shop rep would look good, you'd have done a quick apology without added victim speak, and the posts would have petered off.
Sometimes the best way to defend your good name is to know when to walk away.
When did you deem yourself to be God? Why in the hell do we have to do what you say or this blog says?
Go crawl back into your hole and make your ugly crap. Good luck on the sales.
Monkeyshit September 26, 2009 at 5:47 PM
C'mon etsy trollers, this is getting to be so tiresome and all we do is go around and around.
Take down this useless blog and all of this will go away. Why dont you join the etsy bitch blog where you all fit in. She seems so happy over there. Then we all can call it a day and go home.
monkeyshit September 26, 2009 at 5:51 PM
ATTN: THIS IS A BLOG. THIS NOT THE ETSY WEBSITE. THERE ARE NO ETSY ADMIN HERE. PLEASE GO TO WWW.ETSY.COM TO REPORT ABUSE.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 5:52 PM
"I can plainly see that no matter what I say, or do, I will NEVER be right, and Im a piece of shit! Right? Right! "
Now you're catching on. This is correct. Nothing you say can make things better, and everything you say IS making it worse. Worse for yourself.
So from this you decide.... to keep posting?
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 6:18 PM
and you decide to keep reading????
funkyshique September 26, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Yep, me and a whole lot of others are reading.
But it is not harming our businesses to do so. We aren't the ones trashing our own google ranking.
You are damaging your own business every time you post. See the difference?
And even when your friends post, it reflects badly on you, because many people will assume they are you.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 6:35 PM
"and you decide to keep reading????"
Absolutely. This is better than TV. TV is so predictable but an imploding shop keeper can go in many different directions.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Funky, stop posting. These clueless people do not realize that they have insulted other shop owners.
WAKE UP!!!! YOU HAVE TAKEN ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF PISSED OFF SHOP OWNERS!!!!
monkeyshit September 26, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Wow. This is better than any trash show on VH1 or MTV.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 6:56 PM
If this is going to be as vulgar as usenet, shouldn't we have a Etsy Call Out's Lamest Loser competition for 2009?
I nominate funkyshique, for general cluelessness and repetitive posting.
life-during-wartime September 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Ah, wartime...you are back. I have missed you greatly. I see that your husband has passed away last year. Did you hatefullness kill him? You are lonely bitter widow now.
Why dont you get off the computer and find yourself a new husband? That might free up some time to stop internet trolling.
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Anon,
Omg! Wow, you did not just go there! This is definetly a true example of a "heartless person"!!
Even as aggravated as I've been at bedazzled, I still wouldn't go there! Shame on you ANON! That was fucking cold! Anyways, how the hell would you know something like that??? I'm literally speachless, and I'm out! This is waaaay too much drama for me!
Funkyshique September 26, 2009 at 8:43 PM
funkyshique, it's clear that you're obviously very upset. Even so, while calling people names might (temporarily) make you feel better, this behaviour damages your reputation.
Maybe you don't care about that now because you're caught up in the moment. Consider this: in an online business, your online reputation is all you have.... and your reputation, based on your comments here, is pretty bad.
I implore you to go back and read Angel's most recent comments. They're meant to be helpful and they give good advice.
Good luck to you.
Chantelle September 26, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Just when I thought this couldn't get ANY freaking lower, I just got a convo from one of my customers stateing that she was emailed from someone here, bedazzled???? Sending a link to this shitbox of a blog! U*N*B*E*L*E*I*V*A*B*L*E!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, is this what you wanted your blog to be? First, all of my info for everyone to see on here? second, stooping so low to comment on such a personal thing such as a death, now my customers are emailing me about you! That is all-time low!!!!! Even for you, I wouldn't think you go that low, but you did! I think you owe ME and the other girl a SERIOUS apology!! I will no longer be in anyway associated with this trash!!
Funkyshique September 26, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Chantel, I know, your right. Seriously. I do apologise to to you angel. I do appreciate you helping me, even with my big mouth! I will take your advise into consideration, and I do apologise. I was foolish to let this get to me. I now have a lesson learned under my belt. So thank you for the advise, it's well taken. Thanks for making that point Chantel. I appreciate that too.
Funkyshique September 26, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Amanda, I have not emailed or convoed anyone regarding anything even remotely connected to you, your reselling or this blog.
Never have, never will.
Any unwelcome convos should be reported to Etsy. You know that already and if your buyers don't, please fill them in.
However, you might think twice about being a squeaky wheel on Etsy because shilling your own listings is a HUGE no-no.
Unless you are trying to lose your accounts? In which case, you're on the right track.
Bedazzled Condom September 26, 2009 at 9:23 PM
In the spirit of "putting this to rest since the offending item was removed", I suggest this website as a way to alleviate any unresolved emotion.
http://thebloggess.com/
It's the perfect blend of evil and tom-foolery and, most importantly, the archives will steal up all your time so you won't have time to come back here and drag this on any further.
Enjoy, ladies and gents!
Angel - Having a Nemesis September 26, 2009 at 9:40 PM
OMFG, a flame!
Seriously, I think I've already heard the full range of tactless comments about my widowhood.
How about something religious or political?
life-during-wartime September 26, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Angel,
Love the blog link, it's hilarious!...to me anyway.
Lindsey September 26, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Wednesday, March 4, 2009
Callin' Out Callin' Out On Etsy
These people are so eaten up with jealousy and envy they can't see fucking straight. Check out this post about TheBlackApple. God forbid anyone sell on Etsy and be successful, because then they will find themselves on a blog being cut to pieces with people asking why they don't leave Etsy and insinuating that they have a "sweet deal" with Etsy. And really, I don't know who made this site, but you can damn sure bet that if they aren't a bitch, they are a bitch cheerleader. And people still suffer the delusion that these bitches are doing things for the good of the community?
These bitches only care about themselves. You don't see them bemoaning the fact that your ass doesn't make it to the front page or the gift guides often, do ya? Hell no. It is all me, me, me. And if by chance your ass does make it, or you become successful, you'll be the next on their chopping block. Hey, jealous bitches, do something besides bitch and smear people for a change. All that energy you put into blogs and undermining people could better be spent minding your own business! How miserable, incompetent, and self-loathing the success of others must make you feel.
http://etsycallout.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/editorial-the-black-apple/#comment-134
Puss Daddy
Anonymous September 26, 2009 at 10:50 PM
I like 1000Markets because it IS a juried handmade site, so you know everything you see there is handmade in some form.
No sales there yet for me, but lots of views, which is more than I can say for Etsy lately.
It's also free to list, currently, so you can have as many listings as you want, as long as they are all of handmade by you items. And they DO keep somewhat of an eye out too.
Wolf September 26, 2009 at 11:03 PM