Overstock.Com for All of Vonlady's Handmade Needs..
8:30 PM Friday, April 17, 2009<img alt="" src="http://auctions.overstock.com/aimages/d/0/3/997/39972574_1.jpg" class="alignnone" width="308" height="308" />
<a href="http://auctions.overstock.com/STERLING-SILVER-ORANGE-TIGER-EYE-ARTISIAN-BRACELET/Jewelry-Watches/item/43672158">http://auctions.overstock.com/STERLING-SILVER-ORANGE-TIGER-EYE-ARTISIAN-BRACELET/Jewelry-Watches/item/43672158</a>
<a href="http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=15781850">http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=15781850</a>
Shame on you <a href="http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5247852">vonlady</a>!
Am I missing something? The bracelet on Overstock is sold by vonlady too...
FreshPeaches September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
The description even says it is handmade by an artist in North Carolina. Vonlady is in South Carolina.
Lindsey September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
I like how the listing says 'HAND MADE BY AN ARTIST IN NORTH CAROLINA.'
Not 'by me'. 'AN ARTIST'.
And damn, people -- kill the ALL CAPS LISTINGS, will you?
JK September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Are you guys flagging this stuff? Yikes. Yeah, at first I thought...she makes these. But unless she's referring to herself in the third person, someone else is making these. Someone in a different state.
gurl September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Hello all inquiring minds! I am vonlady and I do design and make jewelry! My sister, who lives in NC, also designs and makes jewelry, and my beautiful daughter-in-law also designs and makes jewelry. We all sell on line together. I am vonlady and I own Babes and Dolls Jewelry. Both names are used on websites since I was selling alone to begin with! I am currently working on my website. so if you have any further questions, please feel free to send them to me! I really do not understand what the problem was! Thank you! Yvonne AKA vonlady!
Yvonne Willams September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Oh yeah, one more thing......ETSY is fully aware that more than one person is working on my site. I filed for a different kind of store than you did. Do you all NOT have anything more important to do? I do not have time to look and try to catch people and flag them! Get a life for goodness sake! Yvonne
Yvonne Willams September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
If you are trying to say that you and your two relatives are a collective, then you still are not abiding by the rules of Etsy which state:
"If your shop is a collective, you must comply with all of Etsy's policies, including these additional policies specifically for collectives:
The public profile page for the account must fully disclose accurate information about each person, their role in the shop and the relationships between the members of the collective."
Surely you can understand that since some of your descriptions state that the items are made by an artist who appears not to be the store owner, and since nowhere is it explained that there is more than one artist involved in the store, people will naturally assume that you are a reseller.
After reading your first message I was kind of prepared to feel bad that you were singled out here, but statements like "get a life" and SHOUTING AT PEOPLE IN EVERY ONE OF YOUR LISTINGS BY USING ALL CAPITALS made me lose any sympathy I might have had for you.
Then I realized that even if you are a legitimate collective, you are still breaking the rules of Etsy with non-disclosure. So you still deserve a spot in this blog. People should READ and COMPLY WITH the freaking terms of a site before they set up shop.
flaggingdoesnothing September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
i CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE A VERY ACTIVE BUSINESS AND HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO WITH YOIUR TIME. I HAVE REPORTED THE ENTIRE INSIDENT TO FLAGGED AT ETSY, AND I AM FURIOUS THAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO. I WAS TOTALLY UNWARE THAT SUCH "WITCH HUNTING" WAS GOING ON IN ETSY, OVERSTOCK,OR ANYWHERE ELSE. I GO BY THE RULES AND I DO IDENTIFY THAT MY SISTER IN NC MAKES THE BRACELETS. GET A LIFE, JOB, HOBBY OR SOMETHING. I HAVE THIS BUSINESS, A LOCAL BOUTIQUE THAT SELLS MY DESIGNS, AND A BOUTIQUE IN NEW YORK. MORE THAN 90% OF ALL OF MY MONIES EARNED GO TO SPONSOR MY 4 LAKOTA SIOUX FAMILIES THAT I SPONSOR, AND THE 3 LAKOTA DAUGHTERS I ADOPTED ON THE PINE RIDGE RESERVATION. (YES i CAN PROOVE IT TOO!) SO I HAVE FAR BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY TIME. EARNING MONEY TO KEEP MY LAKOTA FAMILIES GOING AND THE BUSINESS GOING, TAKES ALL OF MY TIME. MAYBE YOU SHOULD FIND A CAUSE TO WORK ON, IT WILL MAKE YOU A BETTER PERSON! I AM WAITING TO HEAT WHAT THE POWERS THAT BE AT ETSY SAY. I DO NOT NEED THIS AND I DO NOT DESERVE THIS. GO FIND A CAUSE THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.
Yvonne Willams September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
OH, I FORGOT, I ALWAYS TYPE IN UPPER CASE. I AM DISABLED AND NOT HAVING TO SHIFT MAKES IT EASIER AND LESS PAINFUL TO TYPE.
Yvonne Willams September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
The first response was not in all CAPS?
They are just telling you to disclose it in your profile. No biggie, just follow the rules. If Etsy does not find anything wrong with your shop when someone reports/flags it, then no biggie. If they do, then you were not following the rules.
A witch hunt? Nope, what they do here actually gets stores shut down that do NOT belong on Etsy. It equals more sales for the rest of us.
Slow business? Not at all. I just sold 13 items yesterday. We just want Etsy to be all it should and can be.
Me September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Vonlade is this you as well? If so why does this item say just arrived? It sounds like it was purchased, not handmade.
http://www.plunderhere.com/DOUBLE-STRAND-TURQUOISE-WITH-WHITE-PEARLS-WRAP-NECKLACE-EAR-----867052.html
and the user name is ybmimports? same picture and the description is almost identical.
same item on etsy this one says handmade http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=8569014
De September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Etsy:
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=19572699
PlunderHere:
http://www.plunderhere.com/RARE---BEAUTIFUL-SUNSHINE-YELLOW-8MM-JADE-TRIPLE-STRAND-NECKLACE-877353.html#online_auctions
From description on PlunderHere:
HANDMADE IN CHINA
Same e-mail address so guess that is you!
DRS September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Wait -- if being disabled required you to post in ALL CAPS, why were you able to type your first two responses without doing that? Do you outsource your responses the way you outsource 'your' jewelry?
JK September 16, 2009 at 7:03 PM
YEAH, MY HIGH SCHOOL HELPER WROTE THE RESPONSE. I HAD MY HANDS IN BRACES AND COULD NOT TYPE. WHAT IS THE DEAL ANYWAY? WHAT IS IT TO YOU? WHAT DOES IT MATTER IN THIS WORLD? I REPORTED THIS TO ETSY AND WHILE THEY ARE UNABLE TO STOP YOU FROM TRASHING THOSE OF US ON ETSY, THEY ARE AWARE YOU ARE DOING IT. I OUTSOURCE NOTHING IT IS MY SISTER IN NC THAT IS MY PARTNER. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! GO LOOK FOR A REAL WITCH TO TEAR UP. I AM OVER DEFENDING MYSELF WHEN I DID NOTHING WRONG TO DEFEND! GO TO WORK, VOLUNTEER SOMEWHERE...BE PART OF THE SOLUTION INSTEAD OF PART OF THE PROBLEM. THIS WORLD IS A BIG ENOUGH MESS AS IT IS. DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR A CHANGE, MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE! HEY, YOU WILL ENJOY THE SILENCE WHEN YOU ALL STOP WHINING! PEACE AS MY GENERATION USED TOSAY!
Yvonne Willams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
FYI, I AM YBMIMPORTS DBA BABES AND DOLLS PLUS SIZE SHOP AND BABES AND DOLLS JEWELRY.......WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO YOU ANYWAY? UNTIL THE CURRENT ADMINSTRATION CHANGES ALL OF US TO SOCIALISTS, IT IS A FREE COUNTRY!
Yvonne Willams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
GO TO WORK
I do. Guess what I do? I work with enamel. You know, like those earrings your sister supposedly makes.
VOLUNTEER SOMEWHERE
I've been volunteering with disabled children for years. Autistic, developmentally disabled, physically disabled -- you name it, I've probably been there to help out.
MY HIGH SCHOOL HELPER WROTE THE RESPONSE
And you make your assistant fight on the internet for you? Shame on you.
JK September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
I HAVE JUST FINISHED SPEAKING WITH MY ATTORNEY, DAN HUNT, OF EASLEY, SC AND HE CAN OBTAIN YOUR INTERNET IPL ADDRESS AND I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SUE YOU AND WHATEVER TRASH SITE THIS IS FOR SLANDERING ME PERSONALLY, AS WELL AS, MY BUSINESS. YOU HAVE INCORRECT INFORMATION, AND ARE SPREADING LIES ABOUT ME AND MY COMPANY. MY SISTER, DONNA IS A JEWELRY DESIGNER, AS IS MY DAUGHTER-IN-LAW SHELLEY. I CAN PROVE EVERYTHING I SAY IN A COURT OF LAW. I HAVE THE BACKING OF ETSY, AND THE LEGAL SYSTEM OF THIS COUNTRY. IT IS YOUR BEST INTEREST TO LEAVE ME AND MY COMPANY ALONE. I HAVE DONE NOTHING TO YOU, OR TO YOUR COMPANY. TO COMPETE WITH YOU IS HONEST AND FAIR. I AM GLAD TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE GAINFULLY EMPLOYED, YOUR EMPLOYER MUST LOVE ALL OF THE DOWN TIME YOU SPEND ON THE INTERNET ON YOUR WITCH HUNTS. NOW ALL OF YOU HAVE A CHOICE, LEAVE ME AND MY BUSINESS ALONE, OR CAN AND WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION. OH, MY HIGH SCHOOL ASSISTANT WAS TYPING MY WORDS, I DEPEND ON NO ONE TO FIGHT MY BATTLES, ESPECIALLY WHEN I AM IN THE RIGHT. FYI I WORK, I VOLUNTEER, AND I DONATE THOUSANDS EACH YEAR TO THE LAKOTA SIOUX OF THE PINERIDGE RESERVATION. YES, I CAN PROVE THAT TOO. I DO ALL OF THIS AND I HAVE BEEN DISABLED FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS 5 MONTHS. DO NOT TRY TO PLAY ANY FURTHER GAMES, LEAVE, ME, MY SISTER. AND MY BUSINESS ALONE. TOO BAD YOU ARE SUCH A SCUM BALL THAT YOU HIDE BEHIND A ALIAS. NOTHING YOU CAN SAY CAN OUT DO ME, I AM REAL, I AM HONEST, AND I CAN PROVE EVERY WORD I SAY. I DO NOT HIDE FROM ANYONE THAT HIDES ONLINE. BE CAREFUL, VERY CAREFUL WHO YOU TREAD ON IN THIS LIFE. IT COULD COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU, AFTER ALL, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. IN CASE YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN, IT IS THE GOLDEN RULE...DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU. NOW FOR TE LAST TIME, LEAVE ME, MY SISTER, MY BUSINESS ALONE.
Yvonne Williams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
My god, this is becoming fascinating.
JK September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=11300049&ga_search_query=bracelet&ga_search_type=user_shop_ttt_id_5247852
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http://cgi.ebay.com/MULTI-STRAND-WHITE-CULTURED-FRESHWATER-PEARL-BRACELET-3_W0QQitemZ250402522901QQihZ015QQcategoryZ10980QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
DRS September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Wow, if you have trouble typing, it must be *excruciating* working with small beads and the like! My hat's off to you.
artdeco September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
YES, MY HANDS AND IN FACT MOST OF MY BODY DOES HURT. EVERYTHING I DO WITH MY HANDS HURTS. I STUMBLED OVER FOREIGN MATTER IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE BUSINESS I HAD WORKED FOR 12 YEARS. I FELL 30 FEET DOWN A PAVED LOT AND WENT UNDER A VAN. MY HANDS WERE ALL BUT CRUSHED. THE MOVEMENT OF MY FINGERS BUILDS UP THE MUSCLES TO TAKE MORE OF THE CONTROL TO HELP ME USE MY HANDS BETTER. I ALSO BROKE MY LEFT FOOR IN 5 PLACES, BOTH KNEES AND DISLOCATED MY RIGHT SHOULDER. THE PAST 3 YEARS AND 5 MONTHS HAVE NOT BEEN FUN. MY SISTER WAS A JEWELRY DESIGNER FOR YEARS. SHE STARTED ME DESIGNING BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WOULD HELP. IT HAS. IN THE BEGINNING I COULD NOT HOLD THE PLIERS, MUCH LESS A NEEDLE OR WIRE. AFTER 5 MAJOR AND 3 MINOR SURGERIES. I JUST WANT TO BE OUT OF PAIN, MIND MY OWN BUSINESS AND DO MY THING. I HAD NO RECOURSE TO KEEP ANYONE FROM STEALING WHAT I CREATED IN MY HEAD AND HEART. I AM EVEN MORE CRUSHED AFTER THIS ATEMPTED WITCH BURNING AGAINST ME. I DID NOTHING WRONG. IF I DID NOT WORD SOMETHING CORRECT, I AM SORRY. I DID NOT REALIZE MY WORDS WOULD BE USED AGAINST ME. I ONLY WANTED PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT I COULD DO AND I GIVE ALL OF MY MONEY AWAY EXCEPT TO RESTOCK AND PAY ANY AUCTION FEES. I NEVER SAY ANYTHING ON ANY OF THE SITES ABOUT MY BEING DISABLED, AND NOTHING ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY GOES. I WANT PEOPLE TO BUY WHAT WE MAKE BECAUSE THEY WANT IT. NOT BECAUSE THEY FEEL SORRY FOR ME. I AM NOT HURTING ANYONE AND I JUST WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE. I DO NOT DESERVE THIS. I AM NORMALLY A GREAT PERSON. I HAVE A GREAT RESENTMENT OF INJUSTICE. I SEE IT DAILY IN DEALING WITH MY OWN PEOPLE, THE CHEROKEE, AND I SEE IT HOURLY WITH MY FAMILY ON THE PINE RIDGE RESERVATION. NO, THEY ARE NOT REAL FAMILY ON THE RES, BUT I CLAIM THEM. WILL YOU ALL JUST LEAVE ME ALONE? I HURT NO ONE, AND WHEN I AM WRONG, I WILL MAKE IT RIGHT, BUT WHEN I AM RIGHT, I WILL SEE YOU IN HADES BEFORE I BACK DOWN,
Yvonne Williams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
me and artdeco thank you for your advice and for caring. i am typing in all lower case, but i can not do that either. so because of this mess, i will be spending more money to hire someone to go over everything i have typed over the past years. i have not been on overstock since december. i have no idea how you even got that listing. i have revised my profile and i will rework the way i say i bought the pearls NOT yes i used upper case the used product.
Yvonne Williams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
I'm sure the Lakota Sioux of the Pine Ridge Reservation are very grateful for your generous support and very likely would be amenable to accepting a slightly smaller monthly donation if said withheld amount were used for something along the lines of say.... medication and therapy?
;-}
Jest anudder Scum Ball September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
You guys are being terrible. I support Vonlady and her beautiful workmanship. Artists need to stick together! Vonlady, http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=23839165 is one of my favorites. Or wait,maybe this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/VOGUE-8-STRANDS-WHITE-PEARL-BRACELET-1028_W0QQitemZ260395121030QQcmdZViewItemQQptZHandcrafted_Artisan_Jewelry?hash=item260395121030&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 (weird how the pictures are identical) Or wait, was it this one : http://cgi.ebay.com/8-STRANDS-CULTURED-WHITE-FRESHWATER-PEARL-BRACELET_W0QQitemZ160330323468QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item160330323468&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 or maybe this one : http://cgi.ebay.com/8-STRANDS-WHITE-PEARL-BEADED-BRACELET-MAGNETIC-CLASP_W0QQitemZ120409078091QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item120409078091&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
It's amazing how you're able to make so many of those bracelets AND you're disabled! When do you sleep? With your amazing talent you should definitely look into joining the BS Artist Collective...they'd love to have you...they're always looking for new BS artists.
Nobody Understands My Pain Either September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
i did not start this, you all did! so i guess since you all ganged up on me, that you are the ones that need mental help. i was defending myself. so that does not mean i require help. maybe if you would rechannel your wasted efforts to do something postive instead or searching for people that mind their own business and hurt no one, you would feel better about yourselves. you are really a sad, bitter bunch of people that look for ways to hurt others. i feel sorry fot you all. i had rather take care of others and help them instead of looking to see what i can do to hurt them.
Yvonne Williams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
'i did not start this'
Actually, you did. You started 'this' y selling imported Chinese crap on a site we care about and trying to pass it off as handmade goods. If you care so damn much about your reputation, maybe you shouldn't be misrepresenting your work on Etsy and stick to selling at all the many, many, MANY venues out there for imported things.
JK September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
i did not do that. my pearls, beads and ect are imported. i cannot find what you are talking about. all i want to do is be left alone. it is you that started this and tried to make me look so bad. all i have asked is to be left alone. i have gone through the stores of those of you i would find. one of you is no longer on etsy, 2 of you have so called "vintage" items that i can go out and purchase this instant. people should not live in glass etsy stores and throw rocks at others. i have never bothered anyone ever. all i want is to be left alone. i never bothered anyone. i have also reported every single word directly to etsy. i have nothing to hide. if somehow one of my listings said imported from china, it should have said the materials to make the items. i sell items from peru and chile to help women make extra money for their families. these items are on other web sites, but not on etsy. now, i am sick and tired of this witch hunt. i do not have time for this. most of you are hidden behind your alias and i am unable to directly speak to you, but all i want is to be left alone. i also think your use of 4 letter words shows your actual intellegence level, bitterness, and fear of competetation. i feel sorry for you.
Yvonne Williams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Vonlady, when you say a new design "just arrived" that sounds like you are buying from somewhere else and then reselling that item. Like in this listing.
http://www.plunderhere.com/DOUBLE-STRAND-TURQUOISE-WITH-WHITE-PEARLS-WRAP-NECKLACE-EAR-----867052.html
This exact item was in your shop a few days ago.
Your shop name on plunder includes the word imports . Do you see why we think your finished jewelry is imported and not handmade by you or your family?
And as DRS Says above
Etsy:
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=19572699
PlunderHere:
http://www.plunderhere.com/RARE—BEAUTIFUL-SUNSHINE-YELLOW-8MM-JADE-TRIPLE-STRAND-NECKLACE-877353.html#online_auctions
From description on PlunderHere:
******HANDMADE IN CHINA*****
We could care less that you sell on overstock, plunder, ebay, your own website etc. Except for Etsy. Etsy is a site for handmade goods, supplies, and vintage. Do you still think your item qualifies as handmade by you or your family?
Dee September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
If your 'handmade' items weren't available on other sites, with pictures and descriptions identical to yours, described as 'made in China', everyone might be more inclined to believe you.
As it stands, either you are stealing their pictures and descriptions, they are stealing your pictures and descriptions (which is doubtful, or you would be directing your anger there), or you are reselling mass-made imported goods and lying about them being handmade in order to sell on yet another site.
It isn't a 'witch hunt' when a liar is exposed for what they are. It's just the truth, which would always catch up with them anyway.
JK September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
"i had rather take care of others and help them instead of looking to see what i can do to hurt them."
FYI: Lying to your buyers and Etsy admins = NOT HELPFUL.
Jest anudder Scum Ball September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
"i have gone through the stores of those of you i would find. one of you is no longer on etsy, 2 of you have so called “vintage” items that i can go out and purchase this instant."
BULLSHIT.
You LIE like a RUG.
Jest anudder Scum Ball September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
jest annudder scum ball, be careful your real class is showing through. the new name proves it along with your language! your use of profanity shows who you truly are. ok if i am lying how do i know the following? do a search for freshpeaches on etsy, she is no longer on by her choice. do a search for electricbluebird. look at the red justin boots and silver shoes. the red justin boots are currently being sold at the western shop in greenville sc. so if justin is selling them here, they are everywhere. she did not like my telling her my daughter just bought a pair. i know my daughter has horses and she bought a red pair a few days ago. the turquoise color is also hot this year. the silver shoes can be purchased at walmart, kmart, and anyother discount shoe store. i also did a search for lindsey and i think i know which one of the sellers it is, but i am not certain. at any rate, the rest of you hide behind your alias identies are sure a big mess of dummies! those of you that are supporting me here and for all of the emails from etsy sellers, thank you and may GOD bless you all! i have told the truth. i am correcting the mistakes as rapidly as possible. much of what had been brought up was auction sites that were free of charge and we were trying to sell enough to get by. i did not type all of the item descriptions. normally i do little typing. i have been so heart broken, and angry over this mess that i an responding and sending everything to etsy. if i made errors in listings, we are all proof reading everything. i also would like to know what pleasure you people get out of attacking people. especially people that never bother anyone! i have never done anything to you and i do not lie.
Yvonne Williams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
oh hello nobody knows by pain either! you are a doll. please let me know if i can ever help you.
Yvonne Williams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Yes. Nobody Knows My Pain Either is a sweetheart ;)
FreshPeaches September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Yvonne Willams Says:
April 23, 2009 at 10:10 am
UNTIL THE CURRENT ADMINSTRATION CHANGES ALL OF US TO SOCIALISTS, IT IS A FREE COUNTRY!
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WTF? Seriously, WTF?!
Ginna September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
i have directed my anger to the chinese for years. i did not know about the name across the picture deal. i still do not know how to put my name across the pictures to protect myself. they took my pictures, how else could i have clear pictures. i do not know how to change the pictures. i had my daughter-in-law make new pictures of most of the items. they did not use any of my new pictures because i had written so many complaints to them. it did no good what so ever. it was a total waste of time, energy and effort! this entire problem resulted because i did not know that people were so horrible that they would steal ideas, and pictures. i do know that i use real stone and 925 sterling. i can assure the copies are not. now, several years later, i do know. i have my high school helper, and computer genius, helping me now and i hope and pray to get everything corrected. she is still in school and does not have alot of time yet. now, i really wish to be left to my corrections and left alone by you horrible people that look for anything to hurt others. and that is the real truth to the matter!
Yvonne Williams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
So, let me see if I have this straight. Your sister makes the jewelry, your high school helper does the typing, and your daughter in law takes the pictures. You injured yourself 3 years and 5 months ago and your sister taught you how to design jewelry as a sort of therapy BUT you've been designing jewelry for 6 years. Some of your jewelry is handmade in china (by your sister?), but the chinese are the jerks who stole your designs in the first place. So, I have two questions: What do YOU actually do in the handmade process, and why on earth are you trusting those horrible awful thieving chinese with your brand new jewelry designs? ( http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=24065273 )
Nobody Understands My Pain Either September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Yvonne Williams Says:
April 24, 2009 at 11:45 am
i have directed my anger to the chinese for years.
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Again, seriously, WTF?!?
Ginna September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Hmm. Looking at the necklace that Nobody Understands My Pain Either linked really makes me wonder how your "friend in China" feels about your deep anger toward the Chinese. That must put a strain on the relationship.
FreshPeaches September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
will you horrible blood sucking, scum balls leave me ane ever other person you have attacked alone? i guess that is the way low life people make themselves feel better about their lack of common sense, class, education, and consideration. leave me alone and i will not bother you all.
Yvonne Williams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
gina can you not say anything but wtf? you really must be a piece of work. you do not know me, my situation, or anything about me. leave me, my business, my sister alone. i simply made am attempt to clear my name. it is apparent you people have not a clue. as i said 3 days ago, get a life and leave others alone.
Yvonne Williams September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
I'm just concerned about you is all. All of this indignation can't be good for your recovery...
FreshPeaches September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
I'm not sure how lowlife people make themselves feel better about their lack of common sense, class, education and consideration. Of course, that would be because I'm college educated, carry myself with class and dignity, am considerate enough to honor the rules of the venue that I'm selling in, and have enough common sense to know what BS stands for.
No one is dragging you here Yvonne. You keep clicking on this site all on your own (unless it's your high school helper, in which case - shame on you high school helper! Leave Vonlady alone!)
People have a right to be angry when their marketplace has become cluttered with items that violate the very spirit of that marketplace. People have a right to be concerned that their customers - the customers who love receiving an item right from the person who made it - could potentially be mislead and conned into purchasing mass produced merchandise. Like it or not, your merchandise is mass produced. You don't make it. It does not embody the spirit of handmade or what many people thought the spirit of Etsy was. If Etsy truly has your back on this then Etsy is no longer about handmade. At least on Ebay there's no pretense.
Nobody Understands My Pain Either September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
What Obama and turning everybody into socialists has to do with ANYTHING I have no idea - that is the reason I asked WTF. I just don't understand what the two have to do with one another. I never attacked you and was only questioning why certain things you said were even remotely relevant to the situation.
I feel bad that you are upset that you have been "singled out" but attacking whole political groups or nationalities is not the way to vindicate yourself.
May peace be with you.
Ginna September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Yvonne Williams Says:
April 24, 2009 at 11:45 am
i have directed my anger to the chinese for years.
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I'm sure they're taking your anger just as seriously as we are. I mean, hello? You're still BUYING jewelry and supplies from them!
Jest anudder Scum Ball September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
P.S. The "supplies" was sarcasm. I know you don't make any of this crap.
Jest anudder Scum Ball September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
"those of you that are supporting me here and for all of the emails from etsy sellers, thank you and may GOD bless you all!"
Pots from your sock puppets and emails from your head voices don't count, hon.
They'reComingToTakeYouAway September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Teeth are held in place by roots, not brains.
I'm surprised you didn't already know that, Yvonne-Bruce.
They'reComingToTakeYouAway September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
If you want to act as a sock puppet at least do it from a different IP address Bruce
etsycallout September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Wow, I missed this whole adventure! Gads, I wish they would get people like this off Etsy. I mean, how much proof do they actually need??!! And then she goes whining in the forums about being trashed, yada yada. Gimme a friggin break. And check out her latest feedback, that is a story in itself.
Ooh-Rah September 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM